SugarLoot

Being a HVC member, its nice to have that title as a way to let people know that you honestly give tens. It's really hard to win a contest on this site and most of the time it just ends up being a popularity contest. HVC is a way to get honest votes from users & also have a group there to support you, kind of like a friend circle. At this point, its started to die out a little. I think what HVC wanted most changed on this site was being able to see the exact vote a user gave their entries. People lie about giving tens, so we wanted a more honest system of checking & balancing.

wooohoooo! Ashlie! Yep....HVC is mostly honest....but we got a really bad rap.... Very happy for you and Chris! You had a great entry! :0)

but is there really isn't a way to check if the HVC is voting 10s. its just a label saying you do, but if you're going to give a 1 instead of a 10, would you really care if you had 3 letters next to your name or not? (sorry, i'm a debater and i always have to show the other side of things :])

well thats the thing, we want it changed so that people can see what votes other people really give them. We're a support team, but we're also a team trying to change the rules on sugarloot. yay for reform!

The way I see it EVERYONE here on SL is part of my clan. I vote for everyone and support everyone. Unless someone cheated and downvoted me more than once a day, I'm okay with it. You just have to accept that downvoting is part of the game and from there you make friends with everyone. When everyone is your friend, they feel bad downvoting you. And that's how you keep the lead and win a cool prize. :-) And as an addded bonus you get to be friends with lots of cool people and SL becomes FUN and not DRAMA! I love SL!

Oh and can I add that the world is a reflection of who you are. See the good in others and it'll get reflected back to you. :-)

I think it's great that the HVC is trying to make Sugarloot a better place and all but I wouldn't give them the title of " honest." I'm not saying that they lie, 'm saying that they call themselves honest because when they give a 10 they really do give a 10. The thing is, these contests have been becoming more and more just about popularity. From what I've observed being a member of the group means having to vote 10s for each other whether or whether not the entry deserves it. Now, I trade 10s too, everyone does and there's nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't go around saying that it was fair and honest it all ways. Why does there have to be " clans"? In my opinion if there should be any at all they should be " independent voter groups" in which you had absolutely no duties towards your group and voted whatever you felt like voting. If you choose to give someone a 7 or even a 6 that is your competition it shouldn't matter. If you truly believe that's what they deserve then who really cares? Also, what's up with "whatever you give is what you get"? If you think that someone gave you a low score why would you return? Seriously, disreguarding the fact that maybe your entry really does stink and maybe they don't deserve a low score in return. So please Sugarloot, give it to me. Vote on all of my entries what you think I deserve I would be proud to finish last in a contest rather than win undeservingly. ~ Lyss ~

I completely agree with Emily, & i love Ashlie's idea! we should be able to see what people really vote us, because even girls with bajillions of "tens" dont always win.

I agree with all of you.You all have a good reason to support your answers.I agree and think people should get what they deserve.

just hate how people start drama on here, I mean, it's supposed to be fun. I've had people post all over their page that I was downvoting them & say horrible things about me...people just aren't thinking. If you have a 9.2 to start with & I "voted for you" obviously you were getting ones if you had a 9.2 & not a 1O to start with lol. I agree with Lyss...thing is how are you going to get everyone on this site to vote honestly? Unfortunately, people can be too selfish to do the right thing. Maybe the voting system can be changed to how they do it on brickfish, but I feel like the 1-1O is more fast-paced because you're racing against everyone else who may have the same score.

I think that being able to see what people have voted for you is a bad idea. It encourages "revenge" voting which is what HVC is trying to stop. The admins here should be able to tell who votes what and can tell if someone is cheating (IE: has some method for voting 100 times a day for themeselves)... that is what everyone should be worried about, not down voting... a few 1's isn't going to hurt you if you have a good pic!

yea I guess Deric is kinda right, competition is competition.

This site is definitely a popularity contest. It's great for Sugarloot, because all the voting means more eyeballs on the site. But it means that photos aren't really judged by how good they are or even how well they fit the contest. It's all about the numbers. Some entrants seem to know how to get huge numbers of ppl viewing and voting for their pix. So many that some are accused of cheating, as in the recent Best Photo contest where one guy got more than 500 votes overnight. Dunno how it was done but it really makes the contest unwinnable unless you know a lot of people, regardless of how good your photo is! Maybe the real way to make it fair is to limit each voter to one vote per contest per day? Or even, one 10, one 9, one 8, etc, per contest, per day. That way maybe people would vote for their top ten photos instead of giving all tens to all their friends? The other problem that is frustrating is knowing you have a good photo and seeing your score keep going down because of other people voting your score down so -they- have a better chance of winning! It's just not fair the way it is now. If they don't like my first suggestion, maybe the way to stop downvoting is to not let people vote for anyone's picture that has a lower score than theirs? Anyway, that's my $.02!

How do you get on HVC?

talk to Kym.

Is any contest site completely fair? I know that when I created the HVC, I wanted to give a group of friends Honest Tens daily because they had groups of ppl downvoting them. I am hoping that they stick together and support each other first. I have no clue if they downvote to win. I don't and I won't. If someone comments me and asks for a ten....then I vote a 10. If I don't think I can vote a ten, then I skip it. And I absolutely understand being downvoted and I understand seeing awesome entries getting downvoted that shouldn't. But what can you do? If you downvote to win and get ppl to downvote others for you to win, then you have to live with it. With that said, please visit my profile for my next GEEK entry. It will be at the top of my page. If you can't honestly vote a 10.......please skip it! :0)

Also I think sugarloot should make it so you can't for anyone who is in the same contest as you.

That's what I think.