MY PAGE

SEND THE PETITION TO HAVE A FAIR GAME...IT'S NOT ABOUT WINNING, IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME...


THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT!

SugarLoot is great when you want to interact with people. It is a very user friendly web site with option for private chat. One thing I really like is you can post messages in HTML format.


THE BAD THINGS ABOUT IT!

The voting system has some flaws on it and the hackers are proliferating to manipulate the results of the contests. The Guest voters have no violation rule. Bystanders or hackers may either like or dislike a person and make it to win or loose a contest.



MY FRIENDS' ENTRIES


KYM

MONIQUA

ALISHA

AIMEE

YANG

JAMIE LEE

MEG

JAMIE

TAMMY

SPICE

BOBBI

TONIA

RACHEL

VICKI

JANDRI

DONNA


A PETITION
TO ALLOW ONLY REGISTERED MEMBERS TO VOTE

With the intent to make the SugarLoot voting system more fair and free from cheaters, hackers and manipulations, I would like to request that...

"Only registered members should be allowed to vote".

None members can still browse all the pages, therefore no monitary loss on the part of the SugarLoot when this is implemented.

Please copy the above petition and send it HERE.
Note: In the Category please select "Other".

The more email they recieve with this petition, the more chance it will be given attention and approval. So please let us join and make this a better place to have fun. Let's get rid of all these hackers.

If this petition is not given any consideration or response in a week, I am going to abstain myself from logging in every MONDAY, WEDNESDAY and FRIDAY until we are heard.

The only reason that this petition will be repelled is because SL can no longer manipulate the contest.

I am ready to loose my account if SugarLoot feels that my urge to make this site a better place is less important than their own interests.

I welcome any suggestion.



MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS, GUESTS
AND MULTIPLE IP ADDRESSES

The MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS is nothing more than having 2 or more registered accounts in SugarLoot with different profiles or identity. It is considered by SL as illegal and once they are identified, all those accounts will be de-activated permanently by them. Please take note that it doesn't matter how many accounts you created, only 1 vote will be validated each day for each entry from the same Internet Connection or IP address.

The GUESTS don't have to be registertered in order to vote but they can not interact. Anyone including those already registered can be a guest. This is one of the flaws of the voting system. The same person can jump around to another IP address and vote as guest.

The MULTIPLE IP ADDRESSES is the most dreadful of all. Anyone who has the capability of acquiring this can either vote or downvote an entry several times by the hundreds as a Guest at any given time. This is the real flaw that I have been talking about. Some knows how to camouflage their dreadful deeds but some are just blunt about it.

Whereas, downvoting itself is not really an illegal act neither it is a cheat unless you lie and decieve the one you are voting for.


Hopefully what you learn from my page will enhance the fun and lessen the frustrations and disappointments when joining a contest.


UNDERSTANDING THE LEADER BOARD

RANK
USER
VOTES
RATING
1
Entry A
4,200
9.40
2
Entry B
3.500
9.45
3
Entry C
200
9.49
4
Entry D
150
9.49
5
Entry E
5,700
9.38
6
Entry F
5,800
9.25

TABLE 1

The SugarLoot Leader Board will only show you 2 digits of your rating or score. Whether it is 9.49 or 9.41 you will only see 9.4. In the actuality, there are 3 digits existing and they are shown on the tables of my examples This is to let you understand the mechanism behind while the 3rd digits are being hidden by SL.

Notice that Entry A (Table 1, blue bar) having the highest number of votes 4,200 occupies the 1st rank eventhough it is the lowest in the 9.4 group. It is then followed by those with lower votes in descending order.

When Entry A with 4,200 votes recieves a downvote, its rating will drastically change from 9.40 to 9.39 and will drop down from No.1 to No.5 (Table 2, blue bar) just below Entry E. This explains why in the hell one score would be on top and suddeny be at the bottom with just a single downvote.

RANK
USER
VOTES
RATING
1
Entry D
151
9.50
2
Entry B
3.500
9.45
3
Entry C
200
9.49
4
Entry E
5,700
9.38
5
Entry A
4,201
9.39
6
Entry F
5,800
9.25

TABLE 2

While on the other hand, when Entry D (Table 1, rank 4, yellow bar) with 150 votes recieves a single vote of a 10, it's total votes will now be 151 and its rating will go up drastically from 9.49 to 9.50. Since it has the highest score, it will now shoot up to the top from No.4 to No.1 (Table 2, yellow bar) eventhough it has only 151 votes. But remember, you need about 300 votes to qualify in the final tally.

If these two entries are followed by alternating good and bad votes it will keep jumping up and down as you might have seen in the actual SL Leader Board. It is because they are at the threshold zone where they need only few votes to cross that lower and upper limits of the score.

TIPS FOR THE NEWBIES

You have to understand how SugarLoot makes money in order for you to understand why they choose such kind of a voting system. SL gets some amount from the sponsors of the contests but most of all from the ads being placed on the pages. The ads pay certain amount for each time the page is opened up. The more people vote the more money they make. This is why they allow people to vote daily for the same entry. They even encourage people from other web sites such as MySpace to cast their votes as guests.

The winner is based on the highest average of votes and not by the count of votes recieved. This is to give a chance for everyone to win even they join late in the contest.

Example of averaging system: If one entry recieves 5 votes with a rating of 10 each, the total is 50 (5x10=50), but the average score is 10 (50/5=10). When it receives another vote with a rating of 9, the average score drops down to 9.8333 but SL will only show 2 decimal numbers so it is 9.8.

The average score is equal to the sum of votes (50+9=59) devided by the number of votes which is (5+1=6).

59/6 = 9.8

Please take note that the higher the number of votes, the harder it is for an average score to go up because the vote of 10 will be split by the total number of votes. Although, at the same time the downvote will also be less effective making your score stable and secured.

The simplest way to figure out how many number of votes you need in order to raise your score is by using the ratio and proportion equation which is;

FOR EVERY 100 VOTES YOU HAVE, YOU NEED 10 MORE VOTES TO RAISE YOUR AVERAGE SCORE BY 0.1.

Say your number of votes is 540 (SL calls it ratings) and your averave score is 9.2. You need 54 more votes to raise it to 9.3 considering no downvotes of course.

PALM SPRING, CALFORNIA

JOINING A CONTEST

Joining a contest may be fun but I have to warn you guys that it is really tough. You can be honest in trading 10s but it's not gonna help unless you have lots of friends to support each other's entry. Not to mention that you need to spend so much time on line to get those votes. Otherwise your entry will go into a deep slumber. I have observed that most newbies especially those teeners are fund of downvoting others on the same contest because they think they can raise their score. They soon realize it is the opposite. You also have to accept the fact that there are hackers everywhere that will conduct the outcome of the contest. They can twist the result by promoting and demoting entries as much as they like even in just a matter of 2 hours before the contest ends. Who would ever believe that an entry can be hit with rapid succession of 300 solid downvotes (1s) in 2 hours before the contest ends and dropping it from 1st Place to 6th Place while the rests were untouched? Those who could have won but were over taken by these hackers have already left the SL site right after the contests because of disappointments.

We know who these hackers are. They are shameless and don't care about others who have spent counless hours for their entries only to get robbed of their winnings in the end! It is just frustrating when SugarLoot is helpless in preventing such activities. There is even a suspicion that SL has something to do with it since they don't do anything to prevent such unscupulous acts.

If you are not in a faction with these hackers, your chances of winning is very slim. Therefore, I advice everyone just to take it easy and have fun. Do not kill yourself overdoing it. Avoid conflict with anyone. Everybody is saying that they are honest and I believe some of them. Downvoting is just part of the game but you need to use it sparingly, otherwise an avalanche occurs where everybody will keep doing it and you know what happens.

I would like to emphasize though that the contest is not really about how good your entry is, but rather how quick you can get those 10s while your friends are backing you up so you stay of top. This is some kind of a "Reality Show" where everyone is endulged in a "free for all" survival strategy.

One thing that throws me off is when you trust somebody trading 10s and find out later that you have been getting 1s all along. It is okay if someone downvotes me anonymously or telling me frankly but asking for a 10 and giving me back a 1 in return is really an unthinkable cheat. They would even keep mentioning their honesty at their pages. There are some who just leave notes that they gave you a 10 but actually they don't. They think it's the fastest way they can get those 10s. They are lucky if nobody tracks down their incoming votes but there are some smart people who does.

I use an Excel form to record each one's progress that automatically computes the average score. It will tell you how many 10's or 1' you are getting and you will identify those people who are cheating. Let me know if you need a copy and I will send it to you.

So, with this little advice I hope everyone enjoys and have fun!

LONG BEACH, CALFORNIA


AWARDS
Most viewed entry in ImageChef's Funniest Image - awarded Monday, June 16, 2008 Bronze medal in Entries - awarded Sunday, May 25, 2008 1st Place in ImageChef's Funniest Image - awarded Wednesday, April 30, 2008 Gold medal in Voting - awarded Monday, April 14, 2008 1st Place in Cutest Pet - awarded Wednesday, July 2, 2008
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COMMENTS
thanhy dailies today donee
i like your profile.
its really pretty
and full of info
for people that are new
and people that have been
here for a long time
Posted 07/06/08 - 01:11 am
houda says downvoters are lamee
great info!
10 on my peace entery? i always return!
Posted 07/05/08 - 10:21 pm
nur athirah --
hello there.
mind voting for thanh's entries?
-PeaceSign
-Vlad
and also for madison's entry?
-BestTalent
thanks a million :]
just comment all three of us, and we will return the favor.
and if you have already voted for them, or you're already doing dailies with them, please ignore this comment. thank you =]
Posted 07/05/08 - 09:00 pm
Emma - PMGD - im sorry guys i should be home today
Hey. Can you please give me a ten on my best shoe design entry ? I will return the favor within seconds ! Thanks in advance<3
Posted 07/05/08 - 07:27 pm
Jenny Lynn-Vote for me Please-Birthday in Two days
Please vote 10 on my entry! Thanks!
Posted 07/05/08 - 12:48 pm
Kathy
Thanks!
Posted 07/05/08 - 11:24 am
Danny
Hi Jeff, Thanks for posting the voting info on your profile. Very well-researched and accurate. Congrats too on your pet's win! Well-deserved.

Certainly, the voting process on this site is FLAWED... but I have run into some nice people along the way... That has been more important to me. I know I am nowhere near 'connected' enough to actually ever win anything anyway...

Maybe the best advice to participants is to just have fun with this... and don't take it too seriously...
It doesn't appear that SL is really interested in making the contests truly more "fair"...

Good luck to you... and Thanks again...
Posted 07/05/08 - 10:59 am
Alyssa Help me get to
do you know if people win the largest # of votes or biggest rating?
Posted 07/05/08 - 09:51 am
cliff
10
Posted 07/05/08 - 06:54 am