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IT'S NOT ABOUT WINNING.....IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME!

 

THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT!

SugarLoot is great when you want to interact with people. It is a very user friendly web site with option for private chat. One thing I really like is you can post messages in HTML format.

 

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THE BAD THINGS ABOUT IT!

The voting system has some flaws on it and the hackers are proliferating to manipulate the results of the contests. The Guest voters have no violation rule. Bystanders or hackers may either like or dislike a person and make it to win or loose a contest.

The Most Prized Possession is another case validating my belief that someone can manipulate and decide who should win. If you have any concern, pls. go to here. Please read the bottom comment on that page.

 

 

I FINALLY GOT MY ULTRA FLIP VIDEO CAMERA

I would like to thank SugarLoot for awarding me this awesome camera thru the courtesy of ImageChef.

Please click the image for more info

Read the review of this camera
in here.

 

 

Hopefully what you learn from my page will enhance the fun and lessen the frustrations or disappointments when you join a contest.

 

 

SODA FOR A BREAK
AND A PROOF THAT CHEATS

I have made it a habit of copying and pasting the score results without tampering as my comments after my vote. The problem is that, after doing this for several times SL automatically stops you from doing some more and advices you to get some soda for a break. It is an SL spamming protection and will slow you down. To avoid this, send some manual typing between about ten copy/paste or just do them alternately.

By the way, it is important to note that it is the previous number of votes and score you are copying and pasting with the rating you gave. Some people are mistakenly accused of downvoting because of this, when actually it was the previous one who did it. This is why most people don't copy/paste at all to avoid the accusation and there are some who thinks that the proof is irrelevant because it can be tampered with.

It can be tampered with in such a way that the vote of 1 can be altered by adding a 0 next to it to make it a 10 before sending it. However, regardless of the dishonesty, the updated number of votes is an essential information to track down the entry's progress and also let you know who are your friends or foes. I can simply say that there is something hidden when someone do not leave a proof.

 

 

RECOGNIZING THE CHEATERS

You will notice sometimes on the proof that several of them have exactly the same results, meaning the number of votes did not change. This happens when several of them voted exactly at the same time and because of the delay for SL to update. This is normal.

However, if the votes are seperated by several minutes then this is a different story. It is possible that the last person must have already voted earlier and thus the vote did not count or it is invalid so the number of votes did not change. If that person left a comment or proof previously then you have no worries, Now if there is no sign or comment earlier and secretly voting then you are dealing with a cheater. If the person is voting Public and there is no sign of a previous vote then that person has a multiple account and using the same IP for both.

My advice is that, when you are trading 10s to unfamiliar persons, copy and paste that proof to avoid suspiciouns regardless whether you are voting secretly or publicly.

To me those people who do not leave a proof are some kind of inconsiderate even if they are familiar to me. I find them questionable, unless you really, really, really trust each other. They keep saying they do not have enough time to leave the proof. All it takes is just 1 highlight and 1 click (copy) before selecting that "Post Comment" and another click (paste) before sending it (copy is CTRL & C, while paste is CTL & V). Well, how much time do you really need for that compared to typing those several letters to construct a comment? I prefer not to give the other person the benefit of a doubt of my honesty by giving the proof.

 

 

UNDERSTANDING THE LEADER BOARD

RANK
USER
VOTES
RATING
1
Entry A
4,200
9.40
2
Entry B
3.500
9.45
3
Entry C
200
9.49
4
Entry D
150
9.49
5
Entry E
5,700
9.38
6
Entry F
5,800
9.25

TABLE 1

The SugarLoot Leader Board will only show you 2 digits of your rating or score. Whether it is 9.49 or 9.41 you will only see 9.4. In the actuality, there are 3 digits existing and they are shown on the tables of my examples This is to let you understand the mechanism behind while the 3rd digits are being hidden by SL.

Notice that Entry A (Table 1, blue bar) having the highest number of votes 4,200 occupies the 1st rank eventhough it is the lowest in the 9.4 group. It is then followed by those with lower votes in descending order.

When Entry A with 4,200 votes recieves a downvote, its rating will drastically change from 9.40 to 9.39 and will drop down from No.1 to No.5 (Table 2, blue bar) just below Entry E. This explains why in the hell one score would be on top and suddeny be at the bottom with just a single downvote.

RANK
USER
VOTES
RATING
1
Entry D
151
9.50
2
Entry B
3.500
9.45
3
Entry C
200
9.49
4
Entry E
5,700
9.38
5
Entry A
4,201
9.39
6
Entry F
5,800
9.25

TABLE 2

While on the other hand, when Entry D (Table 1, rank 4, yellow bar) with 150 votes recieves a single vote of a 10, it's total votes will now be 151 and its rating will go up drastically from 9.49 to 9.50. Since it has the highest score, it will now shoot up to the top from No.4 to No.1 (Table 2, yellow bar) eventhough it has only 151 votes. But remember, you need about 300 votes to qualify in the final tally.

If these two entries are followed by alternating good and bad votes it will keep jumping up and down as you might have seen in the actual SL Leader Board. It is because they are at the threshold zone where they need only few votes to cross that lower and upper limits of the score.

 

 

MY IMAGECHEF'S CONTEST

This was my 3rd contest and I have decided that it will be my last. It is sad that desperate people have to make unfavorable comments for those who win a contest. Winning is not always good because it makes friends become enemies when suspeciouns of cheating arises. Most people who have been here for long should at least understand that the results of the contest are always confusing and a little bit of complicated.

I joined last January of 2008 and learned a lot on how SL works. I have also meet some nice people on line. I will keep maintaining my page to help those people who needs to know the tricks and the "dos and don't" stuff. Just bear in mind though that the most important thing is that...

"IT IS NOT ABOUT WINNING,, IT IS HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME" by making lots of friends and interacting with them to get those votes and you might just win.

Thanks for everyone who believes that I do deserve to win this one.

 

 

 

THE CUTEST PET

The 1st contest I ever joined in was the Cutest Pet. I would say that this is the easiest one to join in but the hardest one to win. Why? The easiest, because everyone has a pet and the hardest, because lots of entries that everybody wants to win so downvoting is rampant. It's a "free for all" downvoting.

Take note of the current Cutest Pet which will end on Tuesday. Chery has more than 8,000 votes with an average score of only 9.0. It means that she's getting about 200 votes daily with may be 20 of them are downvotes. To balance and maintain the score to 9.0 she has to have about 180 votes daily. That's very tiresome. I don't know how she manage it but your guess is as good as mine.

 

 

 

THE LAST FINAL 5 HOURS OF
THE BIGGEST SPORTS FAN

Chalice was deleted for unknown reason. Kandykisses and Lexi suffered the most downvotes. The only entry of the top 10 with minimum downvotes is Kaitlin.

Obviously all the original highest pointers were all pulled down and one low pointer stayed on top. Any of them could have pulled Kaitlin down too but they didn't because they couldn't. Would anyone believe that for the last 2 hours what Lexi received were all downvotes? Where do you think all those downvotes came from?

The spreadsheet will show each entry's progress during the last 5 hours and reveal how everyone is being downvoted. It looks like a "survival of the fittest", or is it just someone is behind all of these?

An average person can make a reasonable conclusion on what was really going on..

Please click the link below representing the time the Screen Shot of the Leader Board was taken.

5:50 AM

8:18 AM

9:21 AM top

9:21 AM bottom

11:00 AM top

11:00 AM bottom

The final Leader Board

EXCEL SPREADSHEET


TIPS FOR THE NEWBIES

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have to understand how SugarLoot makes money in order for you to understand why they choose such kind of a voting system. SL gets some amount from the sponsors of the contests but most of all from the ads being placed on the pages. The ads pay certain amount for each time the page is opened up. The more people vote the more money they make. This is why they allow people to vote daily for the same entry. They even encourage people from other web sites such as MySpace to cast their votes as guests.

The winner is based on the highest average of votes and not by the count of votes recieved. This is to give a chance for everyone to win even they join late in the contest.

Example of averaging system: If one entry recieves 5 votes with a rating of 10 each, the total is 50 (5x10=50), but the average score is 10 (50/5=10). When it receives another vote with a rating of 9, the average score drops down to 9.8333 but SL will only show 2 decimal numbers so it is 9.8.

The average score is equal to the sum of votes (50+9=59) devided by the number of votes which is (5+1=6).

59/6 = 9.8

Please take note that the higher the number of votes, the harder it is for an average score to go up because the vote of 10 will be split by the total number of votes. Although, at the same time the downvote will also be less effective making your score stable and secured.

The simplest way to figure out how many number of votes you need in order to raise your score is by using the ratio and proportion equation which is;

FOR EVERY 100 VOTES YOU HAVE, YOU NEED 10 MORE VOTES TO RAISE YOUR AVERAGE SCORE BY 0.1.

Say your number of votes is 540 (SL calls it ratings) and your averave score is 9.2. You need 54 more votes to raise it to 9.3 considering no downvotes of course.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PALM SPRING, CALFORNIA

 

JOINING A CONTEST

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joining a contest may be fun but I have to warn you guys that it is really tough. You can be honest in trading 10s but it's not gonna help unless you have lots of friends to support each other's entry. Not to mention that you need to spend so much time on line to get those votes. Otherwise your entry will go into a deep slumber. I have observed that most newbies especially those teeners are fund of downvoting others on the same contest because they think they can raise their score. They soon realize it is the opposite. You also have to accept the fact that there are hackers everywhere that will conduct the outcome of the contest. They can twist the result by promoting and demoting entries as much as they like even in just a matter of 2 hours before the contest ends. Who would ever believe that an entry can be hit with rapid succession of 300 solid downvotes (1s) in 2 hours before the contest ends and dropping it from 1st Place to 6th Place while the rests were untouched? Those who could have won but were over taken by these hackers have already left the SL site right after the contests because of disappointments.

We know who these hackers are. They are shameless and don't care about others who have spent counless hours for their entries only to get robbed of their winnings in the end! It is just frustrating when SugarLoot is helpless in preventing such activities. There is even a suspicion that SL has something to do with it since they don't do anything to prevent such unscupulous acts.

If you are not in a faction with these hackers, your chances of winning is very slim. Therefore, I advice everyone just to take it easy and have fun. Do not kill yourself overdoing it. Avoid conflict with anyone. Everybody is saying that they are honest and I believe some of them. Downvoting is just part of the game but you need to use it sparingly, otherwise an avalanche occurs where everybody will keep doing it and you know what happens.

I would like to emphasize though that the contest is not really about how good your entry is, but rather how quick you can get those 10s while your friends are backing you up so you stay of top. This is some kind of a "Reality Show" where everyone is endulged in a "free for all" survival strategy.

One thing that throws me off is when you trust somebody trading 10s and find out later that you have been getting 1s all along. It is okay if someone downvotes me anonymously or telling me frankly but asking for a 10 and giving me back a 1 in return is really an unthinkable cheat. They would even keep mentioning their honesty at their pages. There are some who just leave notes that they gave you a 10 but actually they don't. They think it's the fastest way they can get those 10s. They are lucky if nobody tracks down their incoming votes but there are some smart people who does.

I use an Excel form to record each one's progress that automatically computes the average score. It will tell you how many 10's or 1' you are getting and you will identify those people who are cheating. Let me know if you need a copy and I will send it to you.

So, with this little advice I hope everyone enjoys and have fun!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LONG BEACH, CALFORNIA

 

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Awards
1st Place in ImageChef's Funniest Image - awarded Wednesday, April 30, 2008 Gold medal in Voting - awarded Monday, April 14, 2008
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COMMENTS
Emma - PMGB - needs nine-two
Jeff, I can't believe that that girl was getting votes after 12. Something is up with this site. And you are gonna be the one to find it! I know you are. You are good at things like that
Posted 05/13/08 - 08:33 pm
Kendra- Please Help Me With My Birthday Entry
thank you so much!!!
:)
ohh i have a question, that proof thing, is that what you copy after you vote? and then click back and paste it as a comment?
Posted 05/13/08 - 07:16 pm
Kendra- Please Help Me With My Birthday Entry
hi!! i was wondering if you could help me out by giving me a 10 on my entry, please? and thanks!
Ohhh don't worry, i'll be glad to return! and if you need dailies let me know! :)
http://www.sugarloot.com/entry/600062941
Posted 05/13/08 - 07:08 pm
Joanne NEVER DOWNVOTES

I ONLY VOTE TENS

PLEASE VOTE DAILY FOR MY "GREEN BAG"

> CLICK HERE TO VOTE >

Posted 05/13/08 - 06:37 pm
loving friends
lets try this..read wht i wrote tell me if its ok..i told the truth..
Posted 05/13/08 - 05:38 pm
loving friends
thanks, well she is in the picture there would be no point. i already wasted enough time w/ that contest which if she is the winner great for her.but im not going threw all that,now some ppl might do it if it was someone i beleaved should of won i would report it. not that im trying to say something im just saying. im going to just let it pass. she can have the tvo,,,hahhha but Jeff thank you for being here and helping ppl understand more about s/loot...your a good person.
Posted 05/13/08 - 05:22 pm
Danielle needs your votes on hottie entry
hey, please vote me a ten on my hottie or nottie entry, due to downvoting i went from 3rd place to 13th, your vote would really be appreciated. thanks in advance! --danielle
Posted 05/13/08 - 05:09 pm
MEG-DOES DAILIES AND PROMOTES
Jeff...you are amazing..you have been my longest and most dedicated fan! =]
Thank you!
Posted 05/13/08 - 04:35 pm
Rachel
Thank you very much!
Posted 05/13/08 - 02:33 pm